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Craig Johnson

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Against his personal preference, PT boat commander Ward Stewart is made executive officer of the

 submarine USS Corsair. On leave…

 

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Torpedomen, do you have any stories, memorabilia, and/or photos to share on our web site?   If so, please contact Web-Master

Patch from my Fleet ASW School, San Diego, CA 1966

 

Qualified in Submarines on USS Diodon (SS-349) under the Yellow Sea on August 15, 1967

Your Web-Master then in 1969, TM2(SS) USN Submarine Reserve

The photo above was taken, as I recall, on board one of those covered Coaxain's Boats (1969, as TM2(SS), USNR).

This was just after I had completed a week end working in the Torpedo Shop on the Sub Tender USS Sperry or USS Nereus.

Another Reservist from my Submarine Reserve Unit 12-9, TM2(SS) Ruiz. I believe, snapped this photo.  He was a photographer by trade, as I recall.

He took the photo as we were returning to shore from the tender, which was moored out in the water at Fort Roscans, Ballast Point Submarine Base, San Diego, California.

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 TMSN(SS) in 1967

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Torpedoman's Mate
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Torpedoman's Mate Second Class

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Bluejacket's Manual
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Basic Military Req'ts
NAVPERS 10054-A

1965

 

Seaman
NAVPERS 10120-D

 

1965

 

Petty Officer 3 & 2
NAVPERS 10056-A

1966

 

TM 3 & 2
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1967

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1967
TMSN(SG)
After Torpedo Room of USS Diodon
 (SS-349)

The fellow torpedoman used my camera to snap this photo, however, I blinked just as he took the photo.

1967
TMSN(SS)

Here I am, clean shaven, in Buckner Bay, Okinawa, post 55 day surveillance patrol

1967
TM3(SS)
After Torpedo Room of USS Diodon
 (SS-349), Small Arms Petty Officer

 

1967 on USS Diodon (SS-349) just about to depart Hong Kong B.C.C.  TMSN(SS)

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1967

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Image of Torpedo Tube interior, much like the 21" x 24 Foot ones I had to clean on USS Diodon (SS-349) in the ATR.

I did so wearing overalls, laying on a curved coaster in the damp smelling tube, with diesel oil in a bucket and steel wool to scrub to tube interior surfaces.

Not so bad on my stomach, or my side.  Dripping fuel oil onto my face and overalls was the situation while laying on my back to scrub the upper side and top interior surfaces.

Of course, while in the tube, I was rather concerned that one of my shipmates might close the breech door as a joke on me.  Fortunately, that did not happen!

Once I was finished scrubbing, from the breech door end to the inside of the outer tube door surface 24 feet back into the tube, I got out of the tube, rather soaked in fuel oil.

Well, that is the memory to share here.

 

 


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2015 TM Reunion in D.C. Part 9

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Who noticed the difference? An did anyone in our group wear this version?

 

Philip A. Speasmaker

 I have 2 white right arm crows - given to me by a retiring TMC in 1968. Both have 1944 stiched on the back

side.

 

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Craig Johnson shared his photo.

 

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Craig Johnson

 

Who remembers were this is?

 

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Craig Johnson with Jim Rogers.

 

December 1, 2015

Taken at a Torpedoman's Mates reunion 2016 planning meeting early PM of 1 December in Bremerton, WA. Left to right, Jim Rogers, Dusty Rhodes, Jim Lawson, Bob Burritt (Honored Civilian), Walt Martin (Honored Civilian) Chad Williams (Visiting from Piedmont, OK), Jim Raley, Paul Williams and Ron Cobb!! "TO US AND THOSE LIKE US"!!

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Walter Tomasheski 

lol Great story I was there in early fall of '69 and love your discription of the torpedo school base.

By the way we went to Mk 32 school and learned all about the destroyer torpedo when my orders came I was

 sent to the brand new SUBMARINE TENDER L.Y. SPEAR never saw a MK 32 torpedo again.

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Craig Johnson

 

Shipmates. In 1966/67 the JRP pulled into Naval Magazine Lualualei at West Loch to offload ammunition. While there I noticed a ship's hulk protruding from the slip. I asked a CWO4 Warhead (TM Warrant) about it and he simply said it was what remained after an explosive accident during WWII. I never pursued it.

 

A week or so ago I was provided a copy of The Second Pearl Harbor (The West Loch Disaster May 21, 1944) by Eric Salecher, University of Oklahoma Press. It covers that explosive incident in detail as well as a dismal practice invasion exercise that took place about a week prior on Maui involving many of the same ships.

 

Most of the ships covered in this account are gator freighters, LST, LCT, their associated landing craft, embarked marines and were staged for the subsequent invasion of Saipan. Personnel involved were USN, USMC and some USA. If you've been stationed in Pearl and/or have made frequent trips there and to Lualualei as I have or still have blue salt water in your veins, I believe you will enjoy this read. R/ Dusty Rhodes TMCM (SW) USN Ret.

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Marie Parker

November 29, 2015Virginia Beach, VA

TMCS(SW) Marie Parker - 1982 - 2004
USS FRANK CABLE
NAVMAG LUALUALEI HAWAII
NRD HOUSTON
USS HUNLEY
USS L Y SPEAR
JEB LITTLE CREEK
USS DWIGHT D EISENHOWER
US FLEET FORCES COMMAND

SUBROC and Tomahawk technician

Retired 2004 still working for the Navy as a GS at US FLEET FORCES COMMAND. In Norfolk

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Craig Johnson shared a link.

http://www.maritime.org/doc/torpedo/index.htm

 

Torpedoes Mark 14 and 23 Types, OP 635, 1945, is the basic service manual for the principle U.S. torpedo of WW II.

It is also shows all the key elements of a successful steam torpedo and represents the peak of U.S. WW II torpedo…

MARITIME.ORG

 

 

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Craig Johnson shared a link.

http://www.maritime.org/doc/torpedo/index.htm

 

Torpedoes Mark 14 and 23 Types, OP 635, 1945, is the basic service manual for the principle U.S. torpedo of WW II.

It is also shows all the key elements of a successful steam torpedo and represents the peak of U.S. WW II torpedo…

MARITIME.ORG

 

 

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Craig Johnson

 

How many recognize this piece of history?

 

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Anthony J. Ferrara 

Taken when I was in TM "A" School in Key West in September 1967.

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Craig Johnson

Torpedoman's Mates North West is planning another reunion in downtown Reno, tentative dates 21-24 May of 17.

 

This one is currently planned as a simple rendezvous with no structured events. Additional information will be provided as necessary. This is merely a heads-up to ALCON.

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Craig Johnson

 

 

Why the Torpedoman rate disappeared.

By Craig Johnson

The Torpedoman was a very diverse community that evolved in to subspecialties that made it easier to merge the specialties into other areas.

The submariner's primarily turned into machinist mates because the weapons had less and less care that needed to be performed on them at sea. Their primary job became equipment maintenance on the submarine.

The same thing happened to the surface Torpedoman operators' with the exception that their ordnance handling training made them a fit for the gunnersmate rating.

As to the Torpedoman Technicians' who specialized in overhaul and maintenance on the weapons and support to the Torpedoman Operation platforms had two enemies both financial. With the advent of nuclear power and the longer ranges and staying power of the combatants the tenders became a cost to operate that was easy target for the business analysis's located in the Pentagon to justify the return on cost analysis to justify their decommissioning.

The other side was that the defense industry for years kept pitching to the civilians in the Pentagon that the weapons were to complicated for the sailors to maintain and that the new weapons technology was to hard to maintain in the field and that only they as the manufacturing companies had the experience to maintain these new weapons.

Now I would like to put forward that I personally had to go on the certification teams that said that the manufacturing plants for TOMAHAWK cruise missiles were capable to build them in the early 80's. Every technician who was working on the manufacturing line at the plant had been a Navy trained Torpedoman. That fact was left out of the final report submitted to the powers that be.

The look at the recent announcement that the defense industry has been a awarded another hugh contract to do what we used to do.

The financial workers in the Pentagon don't have to pay for active sailors and their training or retirement benefits either.

The Torpedoman rate as we knew it is gone and will not return. What they can not take from us is the pride in what we did and the skill and professionalism we demonstrated in all kinds of conditions around the world.

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TMC Charles Spivey Midgett

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/charleston/obituary.aspx?pid=180450136

 

Obituary

 

 

 

Rest in Peace

 

 

HARLEYVILLE, SC - TMC Charles Spivey Midgett, US Navy (Ret.), 78, of Harleyville, widower of Barbara Midgett, passed away Thursday, June 23, 2016 at the V.A. Medical Center. Service will be private. Mr. Midgett was born September 21, 1937 in Sneeds Ferry, NC, son of the late Needham and Mary Atkinson Midgett. He was a 24-year veteran of the United States Navy. Surviving are: one son and two daughters, Robert Midgett of Orange Park, FL, Christine Campbell of Kissimmee, FL and Dawn Mercado of Orlando, FL; ten grandchildren; one great-granddaughter; and one brother, Henry E. Midgett of Alexandria, Louisiana. A memorial message may be written to the family by visiting our website at www.tricountycremationcenter.com. ARRANGEMENTS BY TRI-COUNTY CREMATION CENTER, 11000 DORCHESTER ROAD, SUMMERVILLE, SC (843) 821-4888. Visit our guestbook at www.legacy.com/obituaries/ charleston

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From: robert.pallat@yahoo.com

Sent: 2/22/2013 9:05:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
 

Located TM3 Bob Stroup

All:  I just got off the phone with Bob Stroup.  He went to TM"A" School (AUW) in Key West with Dusty and I in 1964.  Bob's a retired Pennsylvania police officer.  He's in for the reunion next year.  His computer is off line for a bit until it gets repaired.  r/ Bob Pallat.

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Date:  1/5/2017, 8:17 AM, PDT

Name:  Fran Lugo

Email:  franlugorealtor@gmail.com

I have a torpedo school training book dated March 27,1944
My late father in law (R. Lugo) was trained in San Diego and was stationed in Pearl Harbor when they were attacked. The book had many names inside and detailed restricted instructions. It is a real find.

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Date:  2/22/2017, 4:03 PM, PDT

Name:  TMTI Robert F Bragg / NCI (CRF) USN Ret.

Email:  Bobbragg1955@gmail.com

Where are all the 44,46, and 48 technicians? We didn't all die from over exposure to OTTO FUEL II yet did we?

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Aboard the Holland, about 1981.

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Submarine Torpedomen

 
George Bennett

Thank you for the add to your group ! I served as a TM-2 ( SS ) Launcher Tech on The USS SAM HOUSTON

 SSBN-609 from Oct 1968 to Sept 1971, had the Torpedo Room my last three patrols!

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Hans van Aller

· February 24 at 3:27pm · Summerland Key, FL

I know it's a stretch and I hope no one can say yes but I lost a 8 year old son to leukemia and was wondering if there could be any connection with my living in the forward torpedo room?

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Joel Walter

 

Saw this at the Nautilus Museum yesterday

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Christopher Smith

Are there any TM1s or TM2s interested in coming to the Jimmy Carter?

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Tyler White

October 22, 2016Groton, CT

I'm the TMC at navsubscol we just got these coins in, if anyone is interested $20


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Robert P. Pallat with Michele Novak-Seufert.

Group photo of our Navy Torpedomen reunion this past May in Reno, Nevada. Great time for all.

 

 

 

 

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Paul David Baker with Michael Lee Whitwood.

May 19, 2016 · Sublimity City, KY

We were TM'S together on the USS Narwhal SSN 671, 1983-84. This was last week, first time seeing each other since 84.

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Craig Johnson shared Dennis Buchanan's post.

August 28, 2016

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Found this is Dad's trunk, Craig Johnson.

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Senior Chief Torpedoman Kenneth Earl Ickes

 

Sailor Rest Your Oar

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Charles A. Clifton
 

Didn't think I would be touching this memory again!

 

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Craig Johnson shared his post.

 

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Craig Johnson

November 27, 2016

US Navy ordnance crews perform maintenance on a Mark-13 aerial torpedo. Each torpedo requires pre-loading maintenance prior to loading the torpedo inside the bomb bay of a Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bomber. Location is the hangar deck aboard an American aircraft carrier. 1943. NARA Torpedoman's Mates North West is planning another reunion in downtown Reno, tentative dates 21-24 May of 17. This one is currently planned as a simple rendezvous with no structured events. Additional information will be provided as necessary. This is merely a heads-up to ALCON.

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Joseph F. Tattersall TM1(SS) ret.

jsutstoy@aol.com

I was aboard the USS Diodon (SS-349) in 69. Almost lost my foot just before Westpac when a tow line parted,
Took 2.5 years to get it reassembled.
I am:
Joseph F. Tattersall TM1(SS) ret.
AKA: Sut, Joe & Keo.
 

2431 Oceanic Dr.
Fairfield, Ca. 94533

707-386-2412 Hard of hearing so sometimes don't hear the damn thing ringing. Trying to get hearing aids from V. They are slower than...

Aloha :>})
Joe

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Craig Johnson

 

Is it just me or am I having memory failure? I remember working on steam torpedoes that had not had spare parts in the supply system for most of the parts for years. We would just make new parts even to the point of designing electrical circuits for test equipment when needed. Then the defense industry convinced the Pentagon and Congress that spares needed to be made by the manufacturer along with repairs because we did not know how to do it. Well if you look at the situation today any of us could have told you this was coming that are Navy is no longer self sufficient as we used to require of our sailors.

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Robert P. Pallat 

That tetrol was nasty. When we got back some of the old exercise shots it was hell cleaning it off. How many of you remember "diving the air flask"?

 

 

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Craig Johnson

January 19 at 7:38pm

American singer Kate Smith paints the message "To Hitler from Kate" on the side of a torpedo at the US Naval

 Submarine Base, New London, CT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Craig Johnson

 

 

 

Diamond Chapter 11

Shark Watch

By Craig Johnson

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The Diamond TWR-1 was moored at the pier across the street from the admiral’s office

Chief Daniels had just come back from Operation’s getting our sailing orders. The orders were unusual this time since we had a torpedo that had washed up on the beach on Peter’s Island. Peters Island was a small private island in the British Virgin Islands.


When the torpedo washed ashore, the local islanders contacted the U.S. Navy to collect the reward notice that had been painted on the side of the exercise torpedo. This resulted in us having to take a U.S. Navy captain with us to pay the reward for the weapon located on an island belonging to the British. The captain would be coming aboard at 08:00 the next day and we would get underway shortly after his arrival. In the meantime, we had to work up a plan for getting the torpedo off the beach and out into water deep enough for us to operate the boat to get the torpedo aboard.

The boatswain (petty officer first class) and I, (Torpedoman designated Striker, Seaman (TMSN), discussed what we would need and determined that we had everything onboard that was vital to getting the torpedo off the beach. Our plan was to put a swimmer in the water with a reel of small stuff (Ľ-inch nylon line) attached to him by simply putting a large loop in the loose end coming off the reel and the swimmer could then put the loop over his shoulder. We would reel it out as he swam to the beach.

Once he was on the beach, we would cut the small stuff and attach it to a mooring line that the sailor on the beach would then pull ashore and attach to the torpedo. The mooring line would be run to the anchor winch. When the torpedo was close to the boat, we would be able to use our normal procedures to bring it up the ramp in the stern of the boat. We gathered all of the items needed in the torpedo shop, which was located just forward of the ramp that ran down into the water at the stern, and secured them for sea (tied down so they could not move).

The next morning about 07:45 the captained arrived and we put his gear in the stateroom with the chief (our skipper), which had a spare bunk. The transit to Peter’s Island was scheduled to take one day with us set to meet the islanders at about 10:00 the next day. We got underway and proceeded to Peter’s Island without any incident.


The next morning as we pulled into the harbor, a small boat left the pier and came out to meet us. Those on board told us to follow them to the area on the beach where they had secured the torpedo. When we got to the location, we saw that it was an MK 37 and that the locals had chained it to a palm tree on the beach.


One of the locals asked if he could come aboard and we said it would be all right. The captain and the local went down to the galley just below the stern where the captain paid him the reward for the torpedo ($100 U.S.). They came back up on deck and the local said he would meet our swimmer on the beach. Then he just jumped over to his boat. He then took his boat off to the port just far enough to get it out of the immediate area and dropped anchor. He then jumped over the side of his boat and swam ashore.


The captain was standing at the stern watching everything that was going on when Seaman Frank put the small stuff loop over his shoulder, jumped over the side and started swimming ashore. With a startled look on his face, the captain turned to me and asked, “Where’s your shark watch?”

“What is a shark watch, sir?” I asked quite innocently.

This elevated the captain’s voice while he responded with, “When you have swimmers in the water, you are supposed to post an armed shark watch to protect the swimmers!”

Since I was paying attention to reeling out the small stuff rather than listening to the captain; I simply responded, “We have swimmers in the water every day and I have never heard of a shark watch before, sir.”

The captain paced around the deck for a few minutes and then more calmly tried to play more of a leadership role.

“Who is your leading weapons type onboard?” the captain asked. “He can inform you about why and how to set a shark watch.”

“Sir, I am the senior weapons type onboard,” I responded leaving the captain stunned for a second and unable to speak.
At the time he could not determine rank and rate because the only person wearing a Navy uniform was him. Everyone else had been wearing swimming trunks since the captain came aboard.

As I was working on recovering the torpedo and not paying attention to the captain, it seemed like it took him awhile before gained his composure enough to ask a question.

“What rank and rate are you?” he asked.

Still working, I responded over my shoulder proudly that I was a, “TMSN, sir!”
After another brief pause he asked, “Do you have weapons on this boat?”

This led to another minor explosion due to my next series of responses.

“I am told we have an M-1 rifle and a line-throwing gun in that gray locker on the starboard bulkhead in the torpedo shop,” I noted.

Then in a very loud assertive voice the captain boomed, “What do you mean you have been told? As the senior weapons type, don’t you check them?”

I responded to this latest question with what I thought was an obvious answer.

“No sir. The chief has the key and has never given it to me.”

This caused the captain to just stand in absolute silence. During this conversation, his red hair and complexion came to match each other. Finally, the captain stormed off to look for the chief and I got back to work helping to retrieve the torpedo.

The locals had been afraid that the torpedo would wash back out to sea resulting in them losing their reward and had rolled it up the beach to a palm tree where they chained and locked it down. MK 37 torpedoes weigh about 1,500 lbs. Once our swimmer got ashore, the locals unlocked the chain and took it off of the torpedo. The swimmer and four of the locals rolled it down the beach and into the water until it started to float. The swimmer then tied the small stuff to the floating torpedo. With it floating, we did not need the mooring line. We slowly pulled the torpedo between 20 to 30 yards out from the shore to the side of the Diamond and then followed standard procedures for retrieving a torpedo from that point on.

The captain had confronted the chief, who told him to talk to him once the torpedo retrieval procedure was over as he was overseeing the retrieval and did not have time for the discussion at that time. Later the captain and chief went to the galley and had their talk. Nothing ever changed as far the Diamond’s procedures were concerned. I did not hear the term shark watch again until I was on the USS Holland AS-32 over five years later.

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Robert Wayne Camp

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·                                 Works at U.S. Navy and Self-Employed

 

Went to Point pleasant boro high school

Class of 1980

 

·                                 1 family member

Pronounces name ROH-bert KAMP

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About Bill Haddock

U.S. Navy was on USS Bonefish SS 582 and USS Salt Lake City SSN 716

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About Bill Kraus

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I'm a retired military man who served 8yrs in the Army and 16yrs in the Navy. I love meeting people from all walks of life. Right now I enjoy working for the DAV as a driver and transportation coordinator. I so enjoy helping veterans that need the help that I can provide. I also enjoy reading my Bible and doing what God wants in to do.

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About Chea Broyles

Chea Broyles
Chea Williams broyles TMSN, served on USS Frank cable 1999-2001

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About John Whitaker

After GOD, family comes first!
Good enough never is!
Sorry don't get it done!
I am content with where I've been and happy for who I am!

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MK 48 Torpedoman Navy and Civilian

These pages are dedicated to all MK 48 IMA Torpedoman.

This site is for all who supported the building and testing of the MK 48 torpedo including Civilians. For all intents and purposes the civilians in our program have proven to be of Torpedomen material and in my mind should be honored as such.

If you have suggestions let me know, I will do my best to support them.  Use this site as a means to contact friends and keep people informed of any important things that may be going on.  In order to do that, contact me via e-mail and I will post it on a page as soon as I can.  I intend to develop a forum that can be used to post information, but that will be later.

it you have information that you would like to have placed on the site  or if you want to add your information, Please feel free to e-mail me at:

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DBF

From: Harry Biela [mailto:harrysjobs@newcareersinc.com]
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:02 PM
To: James Santos
Subject: Re: FW: TORPEDOMAN'S MATE REUNION CY 17 IN RENO

James,

Looks like you have you hands full with all you are trying to do.....  I sure wouldn't have time to do your job.

Here is a little BIO about me. 

I enlisted in the USN in March 1962.  After boot camp I went to Sub School in New London - Then on to TM school in Key West Fla.

I went aboard the U.S.S. Diablo SS479 in 1963 -1964.  The Diablo got sold to Pakistan and I was transferred to the U.S.S. Clamagore ss343. I did qualify on the Clamagore.  (TM3(ss).  In 1966 I re-enlisted and went back to Key West for Mk45 school.  From there I went to San Diego. I was attached to the U.S.S. Charr SS328.  After the Charr I went to Moffett Naval Air Station for two years of shore duty.  After Moffett Naval Air I went to Keflavik, Iceland for 4 years.  That was some real super sea duty.  From Keflavik I went to Charleston Naval Weapons Station. I worked for John Paul Pardo and Paul Williams in Iceland and Charleston.  We were the three amigos.  ha ha.  From Charleston I the navy messed up and sent me to the Puget Sound AD38 out of Norfolk.  Spent 3 years on the Puget Sound.  Made 2 med trips.  Lots of fun.  Great tour of duty.  From the Puget Sound I went to Seal Beach Naval Weapons Station for three years.  I retired from Seal Beach,  Nov. 30 1982.  I enlisted March 1962. I retired as a Chief (TMC) serving 20 years 9 months.    

I served almost 6 years in the Submarine Service...sailing on 3 submarines all diesel electric snorkel boats.  I made one WEST PAC and two Med trips 

I thoroughly enjoyed all my service time. 

I now reside in Virginia Beach, Va.  I can be contacted by you at the information below.  I look forward to hearing from you about the Reno get together.  Let me know you received this information. 

Best wishes to you and your family over the Holidays. 

Harry Biela

P.O. Box 4171

Virginia Beach, Va. 23454

757-422-1500 off

757-816-1500 cell

757-422-0009 fax

harrysjobs@newcareersinc.com

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James Foster Funny thing close quarters and all, I can remember standing in crews mess at the bott of the ladder waiting to go up ladder, and I knew who the person was coming down ladder just by seeing their boots!
 
Thomas Jones Same for the head, boots told you who was in the john.
 
Thomas Jones Remember how your cloths stunk so much when we got home that the wife would not let them in the house, had to wash them at laundromat. Smelled fine to me.

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From: LARRY KRAMER [mailto:ratonagss270@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 2:51 PM

Subject: LIST OF SHIPMATES ON ETERNAL PATROL & USS Houston (SSN-713)

SHIPMATES THAT HAVE GONE ON ETERNAL PATROL SINCE THE LAST RATON REUNION.

 

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ARNOLD  L. FULBRIGHT  TM2/SS             1954-1957                       4/24/2015
CARL B. JOHNSON  TMC/SS                      1945-1946                      1/16/2015
PAUL G. WATKINS  TMC/SS                                                              10/26/2015
 

GREG W. BATEY  TMC                               1956-1958                       12/23/2015
CPO GREG BATEY U.S. Navy, Retired Chief Petty Officer, Greg W. Batey, U.S. Navy, retired, 81, of Las Vegas, passed away unexpectedly Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2015, while visiting family in Utah. Greg was born July 25, 1934, in Sacramento, Calif., to Robert and Eleanor Batey. After graduating from high school in 1952, he enlisted in the U.S. Navy, honorably serving his country and spending most of his career in the submarine service: USS Catfish, USS Raton, USS Tiru, USS Barbero, USS Raton, and the USS Blackfin. After retiring from the Navy in 1972, he was self-employed before he began working for the California Department of Transportation (Caltrans,) retiring as a construction engineer. Greg had a strong work ethic and was respected by all who served and worked with him. In his retirement, he and Carol relocated from San Diego, to Las Vegas. Greg enjoyed boating, playing cards, a good round of golf, visiting with family and friends and attending many submarine veterans reunions. He was a member of many fraternal organizations: life member, United States Submarine Veterans; member, American Legion Post No. 0008, Las Vegas, Nevada; life member, Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States; member, Fraternal Order of the Eagles, Pleasant Grove, Utah; member, Professional Engineers in California Government. He will be deeply missed by his family, friends and all who knew him. Greg was preceded in death by his parents; his sister, Roberta; and three infant sons, Steven, Keith and Robert. Greg is survived by his beloved wife, of 23 years, Carol (nee Chase) Batey; his children, Mike (Lisa) Batey and Kim (Ted) Smith; six grandchildren; and five stepchildren. He had two previous marriages to Sharon Koster and Diana Conley. Greg was very loved and cherished by his family. Services will be at 2 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 31, at Southern Nevada Veterans Memorial Cemetery, 1900 Veterans Memorial Drive, Boulder City. Read Less Listen to Obituary - See more at: http://obits.reviewjournal.com/obituaries/lvrj/obituary.aspx?pid=177059236#sthash.HWsq5GfL.dpuf

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finish the job.

Remember, God created the heavens, the Earth, and the seas. Man created ships upon which he could sail gods seas. This annoyed God. So for centuries he sunk mans ships. God soon grew weary of this chore. So he created the Torpedoman to finish the job.

William Marc Pickering

And FT's to aim the things.

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Lost Shipmates

Are you on this list?...

...Then we are looking for you!

If you served aboard a BOSTON you are a USS BOSTON Shipmate. We are trying to locate all Shipmates who served aboard all USS BOSTON ships. This section of our website is specific to USS BOSTON Shipmates who have not been located yet---or whose status is unknown.

The BOSTON Shipmates exists for two reasons: to preserve the history of Navy ships named BOSTON; and to reunite crew members of the BOSTONs. We strive to ensure that all hands have an opportunity to participate in the fun and see their old friends.

For various reasons, some Shipmates prefer to remain anonymous. We respect that. However, please consider this: your Shipmates are looking for you! You are an important part of the history of the BOSTON. The Navy cannot/will not (pick one) release names of former service members. In truth, if you've left the Navy, they don't know where you are. We must rely on the membership to fill in these holes in the history of the BOSTON. Your name and all information is confidential and will not be released without your permission. One thing for sure---we don't release our membership list to anyone outside our organization, period.

Shipmates listed on the Lost Souls pages are valuable to us. We'd like them all to check in. If anyone has information regarding a Shipmate listed here, please contact our research volunteers.

If your name is not on this list and you served on BOSTON, please check our Shipmates On Board page to see if you're listed there. If your name is not there, please contact our research volunteers.

In the list below, last names with asterisks are Shipmates whose addresses we once had, but they have apparently moved and their forwarding address expired.

Some of our Shipmates have gone on Eternal Patrol. They are not listed here, but are noted in the In Memoriam page.

We do our best, but if you believe there are errors in any of our lists, please contact us. We'll correct the listing. To the family members of departed Shipmates, we'd also like to hear from you. You are members of our BOSTON family too! In fact, sons, daughters, and six to eight USS BOSTON widows usually attend our reunions.

Do you want more information? Please E-mail us at: mailto:Secretary@ussboston.org?subject=Lost Shipmates Web Page.

Pleas    e... if you haven't paid dues, please don't request addresses.

Okay, here's the "Lost Shipmates" list:

Baudoin, Thomas G. TM1(SS) 1996

Bodrato, Jimmy TM3(SS) 1983-1985

Booker, Justin J. TM3(SS) 1995-1999

Chrisman, William R. TMSN(SU) 1979-1994

Couey, Michael C. TMSN 1985-

Douglass, Douglas R. TM2(SS) 1988-

Egerton, Karen A. TM 1985-1988

Fitzgerald, Michael TM1 1989-1991

Fletcher, Jeffrey TM3(SS) 1987-1990

Gates, Michael L. TM3(SS) 1984-

Glass, Furman R. TMC(SS) 1992-

Green, Jeremy R. TM3(SS) 1979-1994

Hatch, Ronald J. TM2(SS) 1983-1986

Hatch, Ronald J. TM2(SS) 1991-

Hayden, Delbert TMCM(SS) 1983-1986

Hill, Donald G. TM2(SS) 1988-1992

Hobson, Joe TMC(SS) 1985-1999

Holland, Michael T. TMSN(SS) 1979-1994

Jones, Carl Ray TM3(SS) 1985-

Kulick, Frank TM2(SS) 1985-1989

Lambert, Leland TM2(SS) 1983-1985

Lewis, Robert A. TMC(SS) 1988-

Lyons, Paul TMC 1982-

McDonald, Timothy J. TMC(SS) 1988-1992

Reuther, Edward W. TM3(SS) 1988-

Ryfa, Darius S. TM2(SS) 1986-1988

Satterfield, Terry D. TMSN(SU) 1992-

Sink, Michael TM2(SS) 1988-1991

Synakowski, Michael J. TMC(SS) 1994-1995

Villarial, Adolfo TMC(SS) 1985-1988

Wheeler, Jason Owen TM2(SS) 1992-

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USS William H. Bates (SSN 680) Crew List

Name Rank/Rate Period Division Remarks/Photo
Wright, Andy TM2(SS) Apr 1987 – Nov 1990 Torpedo

Best boat of the best class of boat.

We had an awesome TM Division -

TMC Charley Tobias,

TM2 Mike Reedy,

TM2 Mike Smith,

TM2 Bob Smith,

TM2 Tom Michaud,

TM2 Andy Wright (Me),

TM3 Eland Tell

McLaughlin, Kelly (Mac) TM-1SS Aug 28, 1988 – Jul 21, 1991 Torpedomen I had a wonderful tour on the bouncin billy.

As with my other boats I miss the crew.

Hebert, Duane TM2 1993 – 1995 Torpedo Division This was the best of the 3 boats I was stationed on

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Autrey Zane Partain, Torpedoman Third Class

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Donald James Fifield, Torpedoman First Class

 

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Leroy Thornton Nuzum, Torpedoman Third Class

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 Andrew Michael Holecko, Chief Torpedoman (PA)

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Donald Edward Horn, Chief Torpedoman (PA)

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Donald Joseph Thake, Aviation Torpedoman First Class

 

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Peter (N) Honcharik, Chief Torpedoman (PA)

 

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U.S.S. ROOKS  DD-804

SHIPMATES                                        CA Roster WW2   Pacific Area      
SHIPMATES  Find to 1951-54      Korea Roster West & East   San Diego Newport      
SHIPMATES  Find to 1955-59      Korea Roster East Coast   NEWPORT      
SHIPMATES  Find to 1960           Wreck Roster East Coast   NEWPORT      
               
        DOD Drowned on duty  
        KIA Killed in action  
        KOL Killed on liberty
BORN Date Joined City Enlisted DUTY on the ship DUTY  SERVICE # VIEW SHIP
MATES
 
Years
in the Navy in the Navy   Symbol                                     Served
           
NONE    

Torpedo

man

TM 636-68-04 No Loc Alexander, " J "  " D " 59-62
DOB   7-21-1924 08/07/41 BOSTON Torpedo
man
TM 201-99-34 Allard, Robert Irwin 44-46
06/03/43 SEATTLE  Torpedo
man
TM 890-28-85 No Loc Barnes, Stanley E 44-46
DOB   8-06-1921 06/26/40 RALIEGH Torpedo
man
TM 262-59-71 Billings, Robert D 44-46
DOB   4-30-1923 7/14/1942 BOSTON Torpedo
man
TM 607-10-18 MA Brown, Arthur C 44-46
DOB   7-20-1920 04/17/42 NEW YORK  NY Torpedo
man
TM 224-81-44 Buonanno, Vincent Robert 44-46
    Torpedo
man
TM 552-03-93 No Loc Burnette, Ray G 59-62
DOB   1-07-1924 09/22/42 HOUSTON   Torpedoman TM 625-83-16 VA Cantrell, Kelly E Jr 44-46
DOB  7-04-1932 01/09/51 COLUMBIA SC Torpedoman TM 422-07-69 TN Carswell, Arthur Frederick 51-54
04/17/43 DALLAS   Torpedoman TM 839-27-48 Not Loc Chapman, George E 44-46
04/17/43 DALLAS   Torpedoman TM 839-27-48 Not Loc Chapman, George E 44-46
DOB 10-29-1923 1946   Torpedo
man
TM 283-56-18 VA DeMalig
non, Richard Harry
44-46
    Torpedo
man
TM 666-05-18 Not Loc Demers, Donald J 51-54
DOB   3-03-1910 05/31/43 RUTLAND VT Torpedoman TM 825-05-94 DuBray, Estelon Champlin 44-46
DOB 11-28-1917 03/14/44 Wilmington  CA Torpedo
man
TM 272-12-61 Duke, Leonard Earnest   44-46
DOB   8-14-1924 07/20/42 RICHMOND  Torpedo
man
TM 658-76-13 Etheridge, Robert L 44-46
DOB   8-31-1926      Torpedoman TM 625-89-03 VA Ezzell, Dale S 51-54
DOB 12-16-1923  01/15/41 RICHMOND Torpedoman TM 266-30-28 VA Granger, Conway 44-46
03/17/53 NEW YORK  NY Torpedo
man
TM 464-98-64 Not Loc Guidry, Lee E 55-58
DOB   1-26-1918 03/14/40 DALLAS Torpedo
man
TM 356-25-16 Not Loc Guthrie, Floyd Merle 51-58
07/01/57 LITTLE ROCK Torpedoman TM 349-92-84 Not Loc Harrell, Jerry L 59-62
01/11/56 ALBANY Torpedoman TM 474-54-99 Not Loc Jolly, Robert G 55-62
DOB   1-23-1942     Torpedo
man
TM 473-26-98 CA Kilcup, Robert Arthur 59-62
  Torpedoman TM 223-98-89 Not Loc Koch, Robert H 55-58
DOD-TM     Torpedo
man
TM 653-03-06 Drown Kovacic, James Lost Overboard Cuba 55-58
04/14/55 BOSTON Torpedoman TM 902-13-27 Not Loc Lackey, William Jr 55-62
DOB 10-07-1941     Torpedoman TM 492-69-64 TX Litterer, Charles R 55-62
02/03/59 RALIEGH Torpedoman TM 533-93-36 Not Loc Loflin, John Ralph 59-62
DOB   2-01-1942   08/17/59 CHICAGO Torpedo
man
TM 540-64-43 AZ Maitland, Walter James 59-62
DOB 10-22-1934     Torpedo
man
TM 820-09-81 MD Martin, Elwood M 51-58
01/09/51 COLUMBIA SC Torpedo
man
TM 422-08-05 Not Loc McClure, William H 51-54
01/09/51 COLUMBIA SC Torpedo
man
TM 422-08-04 Not Loc McDaniel, William O 51-54
  Torpedoman TM 492-85-01 Not Loc Merrill, Rodney A 55-62
DOB   2-06-1922     Torpedo
man
TM 287-57-14 VA Morich, Petral  TMC - LT 51-54
08/07/59 ST LOUIS Torpedoman TM 536-54-25 Not Loc Morris, Norman Fr 59-62
10/19/54 BUFFALO Torpedo
man
TM 236-56-56 Not Loc Murphy, Charles E Jr 59-62
DOB 12-06-1924 12/16/41 BOSTON Torpedo
man
TM 202-10-69 VA Nash, Charles Arthur 59-62
DOB   9-29-1923 1945   Torpedo
man
TM 650-72-47 PA Peacock, John E 44-46
DOB   8-17-1928 09/15/50 ALBUQUERQUE Torpedo
man
TM 425-80-90 Pence, Paul E 51-58
  Torpedoman TM 909-02-73 VA Rakowiecki, Henry Joseph 51-54
NO DOB ?  ? 08/06/55 JACKSONVILLE Torpedo
man
TM 478-27-31 FL Sanchez, John     (Brother ) 55-58
NO DOB ?  ? 08/06/55 JACKSONVILLE Torpedoman TM 478-27-32 FL Sanchez, Manuel  (Brother) 55-58
07/08/54 NEW YORK  NY Torpedo
man
TM 454-66-32 Not Loc Savage, Thomas E 55-58
Mar-40   OMAHA   Torpedo
man
TM 320-25-41 NE Schlender, Harold E 59-62
DOB   2-04-1922    04/28/43 NEW YORK  NY Torpedo
man
TM 810-70-43 Shutter, Walter C 44-46
DOB 10-05-1921 08/28/40 CLEVELAND Torpedo
man
TM 283-38-49 Sieferd, Harold F 44-46
10/09/57 ALBANY Torpedo
man
TM 514-11-77 Not Loc Simmons, Brice R 59-62
Torpedoman TM 252-03-16 Not Loc Smith, Robert H 51-54
  Torpedoman TM 293-73-81 Not Loc Spence, Leroy 51-58
DOB   1-25-1933 11/02/51 INDIANAPOLIS Torpedo
man
TM 430-67-04 Troxell, Franklin L 51-58
DOB   9-15-1924 07/11/42 NEW YORK  NY Torpedo
man
TM 224-94-12 Vass, Allen E 44-46
09/23/54 BUFFALO Torpedo
man
TM 236-54-60 Not Loc Weston, Frederick J 55-58
  Torpedoman TM 322-18-07 Not Loc White, George H 51-58
12/19/58 ST LOUIS Torpedo
man
TM 530-13-56 Not Loc Ragan, James F 59-62

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U.S.S. AMMEN  DD-527

SHIPMATES                                        PACIFIC Roster WW2   Pacific Area   1943-1946    
SHIPMATES  Find to 1951-54      Korea Roster KOREA   NEWPORT   1951-1954    
SHIPMATES  Find to 1955-59      Korea Roster West Coast SAN DIEGO   1955-1959    
SHIPMATES  Find to 1960           Wreck Roster WRECK   SAN DIEGO   1960    
                 
        DOD Drowned on duty    
        KIA Killed in action    
        KOL Killed on liberty

 

BORN

 

Date Joined

City Enlisted

DUTY on the

SHIP 

 

DUTY 

SERVICE #

VIEW

SHIPATE

FIND 

DOB   7-16-1925

 02/22/43

NEW YORK  NY

Torpedoman

TM

709-18-01

KS

Arzinger, Edward

1951-54

DOB   6-18-1923  

11/21/42

DENVER

Torpedoman

TM

619-05-69

Baca, James

1943-46

DOB 11-12-1925 

11/16/42

BOISE  ID

Torpedoman

TM

554-16-53

VA

Bakken, Layne Kenneth 

1943-46

DOB   9-07-1917  

11/08/35

NORFOLK

Torpedoman

TM

265-69-42

VA

Barnes, Benjamin Thomas

1951-54

DOB   8-16-1923 

 

 

Torpedoman

TM

608-69-58

Besant, Willard F

1951-54

DOB   2-20-1925  

12/17/42

Manchester  PA

Torpedoman

TM

573-16-33

Biron, Lucien William

1951-54

DOB   4-15-1899

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NORFOLK

Torpedoman TM

112-25-74

Bodden, Philip Mc Kenzie

1943-46

DOB 11-11-1925

  Greensboro  NC Torpedoman TM 263-75-54 VA Brown, George Kelly  1943-46

DOB   3-30-1922

09/26/42 DALLAS Torpedoman TM 617-82-61

 

Caddell, James Wesley 1943-46
DOB 11-22-1926  01/03/51 PITTSBURGH Torpedoman TM 36

5-67-19

MD Carnahan, James Ward 1951-54
  04/19/44 PHILADELPHIA Torpedoman TM 246-53-53 Ciotti, Anthon 1943-46

DOB   8-27-1925

07/15/43 NEW YORK  NY Torpedoman TM 815-99-47 Cobelli, Angelo Anthony 1943-46
DOB 12-13-1929  04/06/48 KANSAS CITY Torpedoman TM 344-72-03 MO Coffman, Andrew E 1955-59
DOB   3-31-1923  11/19/42 NEW YORK  NY Torpedoman TM 709-43-32 VA Coleman, Gilbert Edward 1943-46
DOB   8-10-1922 09/12/42 NEW YORK  NY Torpedoman TM 703-91-22 Colyard, William Monroe 1951-54
DOB   7-15-1938 06/27/56 SPRINGFIELD  MA Torpedoman TM 487-58-98 MO Curtis, Ronald Warren 1955-59
DOB   1-30-1923 09/14/42 CHICAGO Torpedoman TM 724-89-93 Davis, Carrell Nathan 1943-46
DOB   8-03-1936 06/20/55 San Francisco Torpedoman TM 470-36-18 Derrington, Billie Curtis 1955-59
DOB   2-27-1940 11/20/59 LOS ANGELES Torpedoman TM 540-04-94 CA Determan, Ronald Howard 1960-60
DOB   4-01-1923  11/19/42 NEW YORK  NY Torpedoman TM 709-43-54 Devlin, William Sampson Jr 1943-46

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02/02/48 MINNEAPOLIS Torpedoman TM 992-78-47 No Loc Dickson, Richard E 1960-60
DOB   6-12-1923 11/24/42 MINNEAPOLIS Torpedoman TM 639-90-03 VA  Dulac, Richard Earl 1943-46

DOB   1941 >

03/17/59 SEATTLE Torpedoman TM 390-05-57 SD Fitzgerald, Robert  (Kravetz)   1960-60
DOB   5-28-1913  11/17/40 MINNEAPOLIS Torpedoman TM 328-38-51 Frakes, Gordon Leslie 1943-46
DOB   2-12-1938   BIRMINGHAM Torpedoman TM 531-07-25 SC Fulton, Niles Douglas 1960-60
DOB   9-16-1922  09/24/42 BOSTON Torpedoman TM 203-07-45

 

Giantonio, Joseph Edward 1943-46
DOB 11-29-1920  03/06/40 LOUISVILLE Torpedoman TM 287-37-79 VA Grayson, James Howard 1943-46
DOB   4-01-1925 11/24/42 SPOKANE  WA Torpedoman TM 665-61-71 VA Groff, Edward Earl 1943-46
DOB 10-11-1925   10/08/44 BOSTON

 

Torpedoman TM 762-36-50 Guertin, Charles Aldege 1951-54

DOB   6-13-1923

11/29/40 BOSTON

 

Torpedoman TM 201-83-15

 

Haley, William Anthony 1951-54

DOB 11-17-1939 

12/08/56 BIRMINGHAM

 

Torpedoman TM 490-35-99 Hardin, Bruce 1955-59

1960-60

 

DOB   5-10-1921 

03/20/42 LOS ANGELES Torpedoman TM 632-80-04 Holden, William George 1943-46

DOB 11-17-1922

  PROVIDENCE Torpedoman TM 204-55-94 VA Huntoon, Richard Roscue 1950-5

DOB   6-10-1924 

11/06/42 San Francisco Torpedoman TM 377-88-34 Johnson, Randolph Irvin 1943-46
Salt Lake City   05/06/44 Salt Lake City Torpedoman TM 368-82-09 No Loc Knight, Robert Edward 1943-46

DOB   4-02-1920

10/10/40 San Francisco Torpedoman TM 376-12-88 Knox, Richard Crittinton 1943-46

DOB   8-10-1922 

08/25/41 San Francisco Torpedoman TM 662-04-19

 

VA

 

Kohout, William Joseph 1943-46

DOB   7-25-1932

  San Francisco Torpedoman TM 423-62-58 FL Krier, Robert J 1951-54

DOB   4-18-1932 

03/03/52 MINNEAPOLIS Torpedoman TM 550-66-65 VA Lantagne, Donald Joseph  

DOB   7-16-1926

05/23/44 CLEVELAND  Torpedoman TM 285-82-29 Linn, Lloyd Raymond 1943-46

DOB   3-14-1914

  Oklahoma City Torpedoman TM 848-47-68 Lloyd, Neal 1943-46

DOB   2-11-1904

04/13/55 MA Torpedoman TM 228-04-83 Malloy, Michael J 1955-59

DOB 11-02-1926 

  MACON  GA Torpedoman TM 469-97-96   Marshall, Willie, M 1955-59

DOB 10-04-1932

12/27/50 BUFFALO, NY Torpedoman TM 235-64-89   Mateer, Thomas A   TWIN 1951-54
Not Located 05/21/54 GHAM Torpedoman TM 443-50-40 No Loc Miller, Harry J 1955-59

DOB 10-16-1913 

05/06/44 LOUISVILLE  Torpedoman TM 958-88-90 Miller, Leon 1943-46

DOB   1-31-1920 

04/13/40 LOS ANGELES Torpedoman TM 382-19-32 VA Miller, Paul Jay 1951-

DOB   6-23-1913

11/24/42 San Francisco Torpedoman TM 378-00-33   Montero, John Souza  1943-46

DOB   7-26-1921

08/26/44 PORTLAND OR Torpedoman TM 883-86-15 VA Moura, Rodney Eugene 1943-46

DOB   5-27-1937

06/01/54 OMAHA Torpedoman TM 319-36-64 NE Nathlich, William F    1955-59

DOB   2-28-1942

    Torpedoman TM 995-60-62 FL Newman, Aaron Gary 1955-59
 

DOB   6-16-1919

08/19/40 ALBANY Torpedoman TM 238-67-26 VA Otto, Peter John 1943-46

DOB   4-01-1923 

12/17/41 NEW YORK  NY Torpedoman TM 224-49-68 Paquet, Kenneth 1955-59

DOB   7-02-1924  

05/12/42 PHOENIX Torpedoman TM 555-55-34 VA Parker, John Shelby Jr 1943-46
DOB  NO SS Info 08/25/58 CHICAGO Torpedoman TM 530-88-71 Killed Parsons, Terry W 1955-59

DOB 11-15-1930 

01/03/51 DETROIT Torpedoman TM 420-77-36 FL Senopole, James T 1951-54

DOB 12-20-1930  

01/10/51 PHILADELPHIA Torpedoman TM 438-30-69 Serkus, Robert V 1951-54

DOB   2-27-1923

04/08/42 SAN DIEGO Torpedoman TM 680-16-53 Shepard, Surtes Garrison Jr 1943-46

DOB 11-15-1936 

06/02/54 ALBUQUERQUE Torpedoman TM 468-10-70  VA Sierra, Roberto  (Robert R) 1955-59
Not Located     Torpedoman TM 314-31-04 No Loc Silva, Frank 1955-59
Not Located 12/06/51 NEW YORK  NY Torpedoman TM 912-06-11 No Loc Smith, Raymond E 1951-54

DOB   1-28-1911 

02/16/38 NEWPORT  RI Torpedoman TM 283-06-20 Stackhouse, Horwitz Dearn 1943-46

DOB 12-02-1932  

12/12/50 BUFFALO Torpedoman TM 235-64-41 Stulak, Alfred Frank 1951-54

DOB   9-28-1932

05/21/53 MINNEAPOLIS Torpedoman TM 553-45-18 KIA Thimmesch, Robert Henry 1955-59

DOB   9-08-1923

05/15/43 Huntington  WV Torpedoman TM 828-19-77 Thomas, Roland Earl  1943-46
Not Located 04/08/58 COLUMBIA SC Torpedoman TM 523-66-47 No Loc Thompson, Robert E 1955-59

DOB   8-10-1925

08/09/43 RALIEGH Torpedoman TM 263-70-12 West, Roy Vernon 1951-54

DOB   1-15-1930

09/11/50 ALBANY Torpedoman TM 327-08-05 Whitlock, Robert H 1951-54

DOB 10-28-1931 

01/03/51 DETROIT Torpedoman TM 420-77-27 CO Wonch, Allen Shuble 1951-54
Not Located 07/27/59 CLEVELAND Torpedoman TM 539-74-86 No Loc Wood, Larry D 1960-60
Omaha NE   Omaha NE Torpedoman TM 317-16-81 No Loc Woods, Dale Robert 1943-46

DOB   7-13-1926

  WICHITA KS Torpedoman TM 343-11-52 KS Wooley, John Byron 1943-46
Not Located   PITTSBURGH Torpedoman TM 250-43-04 No Loc Young, Carl B 1951-54
DOB   9-05-1922 10/12/42 DETROIT Torpedoman TM 623-96-95 Zube, John George 1951-54

(New 07-29-15)

 

A Birthday Picture From When the Navy Was But a Sea-Sprout: h/t Torpedoman!

H/T to Chief Torpedoman, who sends in this way-back pic in honor of the Navy's birthday. These "Old Salts" were crewmen aboard the USS Hartford in the winter of 1876-77. What tales these mateys could tell, eh? I'd love to know if the cat went with them to sea.

3 comments:

BillT said...

Yup, the cat went with them. He earned his keep by catching the rats that came aboard via the hawsers every time the ship docked.

Rats love ships. Romance of the sea, and all that, yanno...

Susan Katz Keating said...

That must have been quite the life for a cat. Rats and fresh fish, as far as the whisker could spread. There might have been a few tense moments trying to balance atop the litter box, but still...

Anonymous said...

Maybe they just held the cat over the rail until it did its thing.

(New 07-30-15)

 

 

 

I, your Web Master, James R. Santos, ex-TM2(SS), USNR, am a Life Member of the Torpedoman's Association.

Robert Wayne Camp shared his post.

HOME!!!!! I MISS IT....

NOW GET THEM FUCKING RACKS SQUARED AWAY! AND KISS YOUR LIBERTY GOODBYE FOR TONIGHT!

My wife's on the rag and we are going to spend the next 72 hours on intense rack making training

(New 10-15-15)

This is San Francisco, CA

 

(New 10-16-15)

 

From: Wallace Rhodes [mailto:rhodeswallace@msn.com ]
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 8:58 AM
To: Craig Johnson; ROBERT CAMP; J. R. Santos
Cc: Arlyn Higley; Paul Williams; Robert Pallat
Subject: PROPOSED TM REUNION MEETING IN RENO MAY OF 2016

Shipmates. Our rating was a large and strong one. One of the proudest days of my younger navy days was the day I got to add a pickle atop my SN stripes and I was equally as proud of that pickle when I retired in 86.  

In April of last year we held a TM reunion in Key West. Key West was our focal point as most all attending went through the old Advanced Undersea Weapons School there. We put the word out to all the TMs we had contact with at the time, those that had served and been discharged as well as those who had made the navy a career. The man who was the organizer of this reunion was TMC Bob Pallat, USNR, who ran the streets there with me 64-66, but got out of the navy for a career in law enforcement and in the course of which joined the naval reserve. One of the Shipmates attending actually lived in Key West and was invaluable in providing local information as well as a wealth of hospitality. We all had a hell of a time. Many of us came from the contingent of old TMs who reside here in Bremerton.

We are currently examining the prospect of holding a TM reunion in Reno in May of 2016 and have started tentative arrangement explorations.   A group from Bremerton just completed a recon in Reno and have spoken with a marketing official at the Silver Legacy/Eldorado hotel complex who seemed eager to assist. We are working with those folks and the wheels have began to turn. Your names have been added to my master TM list, but you have a far more comprehensive list of TMs and those that identify as TMs than we enjoy through your WEB pages. When we complete the planning stage for this reunion would you assist us in getting the word out to our brother TMs out there? We will keep you apprised of the developments as they occur.

(New 03-21-15)

Change of Proposed Hotel in Savanna to the Hilton.
 
We have run into number of problems trying to book a block of rooms in Savanna in September. The Fact that September is considered High season and October even higher has not helped.
It is not so much as the Cost of the Room it’s that they are charging us for Everything Hospitality room Parking, Breakfast and they will not allow us to bring our own Snacks & Refreshments in (Beer or Wine).
All the Hotels are charging for Parking and most do not offer Breakfast with the room.
 
The Offer we had at the Marriott, and most people voted for Fell though (Management Change).
 
ONLY DATES AVALABLE at the HILTON: AUGUST 29th Though SEPTEMBER 2nd
 
-        Room Rate = $109 + Tax = $130 Very good for Savanna
-        Max Number of rooms = 50 (Note if we do not Book all 50 rooms We will be charged for them)
-        No +/- 3 days at this rate.  You can check in one day early (28th) at this rate or pay full rate of  $205 per night.
-        Free Hospitality Room, Large and very Nicely appointed.
-        No Free Breakfast with room, but you get 15% discount in Hotel Restraints About same most Hotels in Savanna
-        Parking $15 per day, this is about same for all hotels in Savanna
-        No Airport Shuttle ( Most Hotels do not have this service)
 
There is a Second Alternative that is to change the Site to Chattanooga TN, We have on the Table Good room rate for Sept 28th through Oct 2nd  
Room Rates $129 for +/- 3 days
 
Your call guys all I need is your OK to Go with the Hilton, or Change the Reunion Site
 
Trish & Gary Adams

2016 Change in Reunion site to Chatanooga TN

From: ad24history@att.net
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 3:50 PM
To: J. R. Santos; Thomas Cetnarowski; AV7 Alvin Lacefield; AV7 Hillard Means; TMA Messersmith; TPM ED Thurston; TPM Leon Longacer; AV12 Bill Linenberger; Ken-miller AV7; Ed Obrachta AV12; George Cortzer AV12; Don Dillon II AD24; Jerry Peters AV7; Jerry Guetschow AV7
Subject: 2016 Change in Reunion site to Chatanooga TN

Thanks for getting back to me, as I needed to make changes before we lost the opportunity.\

Vote tally 15 Board Members (I did not Vote)

2 No response to E-Mail

3 Savanna

10 Chattanooga

I think you will like the Accommodations, We are staying at the Chattanooga Choo-Choo

Free Parking

Airport Shuttle

Hospitality room (We can bring our own Snacks/Drink)

Note:

Room rates are $109 or $133 with Full Breakfast is $133 (This is one or other not both)

We will need to agree on one for the Group rate, we can talk this over in DC or if you want E-Mail me your input now and I will relay this to the members who are attending.

You will be surprised at the number of this to do in Chattanooga.

Will send you-all  a list later this week. before we leave for DC.

Gary Adams

 

From: Bob Bragg [mailto:bobbragg1955@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:39 PM
To: Wallace Rhodes
Cc: Craig Johnson; J. R. Santos; ROBERT CAMP
Subject: Re: RENO TORPEDOMAN'S MATE REUNION 2016 DATE ADJUSTMENT

Outstanding. Bravo Zulu.  Thanks Dusty for keepin me up to date.  Bob. 

Robert F. "Bob" Bragg LAT  WY 

PO Box 12363

Jackson, WY 83002

307-699-7007

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On Jun 19, 2015, at 14:36, Wallace Rhodes <rhodeswallace@msn.com> wrote:

After further discussion with Eldorado Hotel & Convention Center staff in Reno, the projected dates for the 2016 TM reunion have been changed to the week of 22 May

with the "Meet and Greet" session scheduled for the 24th and the official dinner buffet on the 25th. 

This date change was recommended by the hotel staff and will result in a considerable monetary savings for attendees.

Official registration cutoff date and additional information will be promulgated as soon as it becomes available.

(New 07-10-15)

These pages are dedicated to all MK 48 IMA Torpedoman.

This site is for all who supported the building and testing of the MK 48 torpedo including Civilians. For all intents and purposes the civilians in our program have proven to be of Torpedomen material and in my mind should be honored as such.

If you have suggestions let me know, I will do my best to support them.  Use this site as a means to contact friends and keep people informed of any important things that may be going on.  In order to do that, contact me via e-mail and I will post it on a page as soon as I can.  I intend to develop a forum that can be used to post information, but that will be later.

Special recognition is given to JP Jinnette. 

Upon JP’s passing I felt compelled to continue his work. It was JP that first developed the archive of MK48 Torpedoman.  For that reason I devote this site to him

(New 07-11-15)

MK 48 Torpedoman Navy and Civilian

Morbitity and Mortality associated with exposure to OTTO Fuel used in MK 46 and MK 48 torpedoes in US Navy 1966 - 1979
An Adobe PDF File

(New 07-11-15)

From: Doug [mailto:dougdoberer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:35 PM
To: Jack Messersmith
Subject: Re: Otto Fuel Health Problems.

While stationed at BUPERS (88-92) I held in my files a letter from NIH regarding a study of the effects of Otto Fuel. Conclusion was Otto Fuel wasn't found to have any lasting health effects. The letter specifically addressed the effects on pregnancies as this was the issue we were dealing with at the time, pregnant TM's transferring from sea duty to IMA's and their possible exposure to Otto Fuel. 

The current Detailer and likely the current IMA's and/or S&I sites, Keyport & Newport may have the same letter in their files. It likely would reference the time frame of the study, and possibly some additional particulars.

It may provide a starting point to dig into the issues. 
Sent from Doug's iPhone

(New 06-30-15)

From: Robert f Bragg [mailto:bobbragg1955@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:45 PM

Subject: Re: Otto Fuel Health Problems.

Dear Fellow OTTO fuel handlers;

I carried a 0744, 0746 also ASROC NEC while on active duty. I worked aboard the USS BRYCE CANYON AD-36 from 9-74 to 12-77. I re-enlisted and transferred to NAS BRUNSWICK Me from 1-78 to 1-80. Then on to NWS Yorktown from 1-80 to 3-82.  After that I transferred to RECRUITING DUTY and on the a lateral transfer to Navy Counselor Career Recruiter Force.  I medically retired in Jan 1987.

All these torpedo duty stations had MK46 shops and we did de-fuel and fueling operations. As is inevitable there are spills.  We had a major incident on the BRYCE CANYON with a 55 gallon spill in 1977.   Chief Curry and Chief Pfefferkorn will remember this along with CWO4 Evergin.   It took a long time to clean up as well as needle gunning decks down to bare metal and re-priming as well as repainting. All of us were exposed to massive levels of OTTO fuel over a period of weeks.  This plus the normal operations in the engine cleaning / Agitine tanks, waste fluids etc and refueling / refueling operations .  As you all are well aware reports were kept to a minimum and the hush was on so documentation is mainly word of mouth vs. Written.

Spills also occurred at NAS BRUNSWICK and in NWS Yorktown. Exposures in excess of the maximum occurred at every duty station I was at. Some from human error and some from equipment failure. I remember many times in the afterbody shops seeing people, including myself, in throw away coveralls covered in Orange stains. Orange stains on facemasks and rubber gloves covered in Orange stains.  There was always a fine balance between production, weapons commitments and safety and quite frankly we were expected to cut corners to make weapons commitments on time.  This is common practice and hushed as long as no one got hurt. AT LEAST OPENLY.  However we suffered from the effects of the fuel. Wrenches got thrown, some fist fights, depressive symptoms abounded and 2 aspirin, fresh air and coffee did not take care of the issues.  Some of us found alcohol numbed the effects of the headaches and some became addicted to it.  I did and feel fortunate to have recovered from my alcoholism for over 30 years now.  Some did not.  I want to say OTTO fuel did not cause my alcoholism but played a contributing factor in my heavy drinking to alleviate headaches and depressive symptoms.

Overall the VA System has absolutely no idea what OTTO fuel is or was. They do not really want to hear about it. The VA treats depression, high blood pressure, sinusitis, chronic lung and respiratory ailments , diabetes kidney and endocrine issues without regard to the exposures we suffered. I know because I have been treated for all of these for years. I bring up the possibility that OTTO fuel might have played into it and I get the brush off like I have three heads. I did not have these issues before service and the correlation to my time with OTTO fuel is clear to me.

I would appreciate any info any of you may have on long term effects, short term effect etc. I am not trying to build a case or file a claim. I just want to see if I am alone or if others have had similar issues. 

God Bless, stay strong,  I loved being a Torpedoman for our NAVY. Proud to have served. 

Robert F. Bragg LAT, TMTI/ NCI(CRF) U.S.N (Ret)

(New 08-01-15)

 

From: Robert f Bragg [mailto:bobbragg1955@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:45 PM
To: Doug; Jack Messersmith; bobbragg1955@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Otto Fuel Health Problems

While stationed at BUPERS (88-92) I held in my files a letter from NIH regarding a study of the effects of Otto Fuel. Conclusion was Otto Fuel wasn't found to have any lasting health effects. The letter specifically addressed the effects on pregnancies as this was the issue we were dealing with at the time, pregnant TM's transferring from sea duty to IMA's and their possible exposure to Otto Fuel. 

The current Detailer and likely the current IMA's and/or S&I sites, Keyport & Newport may have the same letter in their files. It likely would reference the time frame of the study, and possibly some additional particulars.

It may provide a starting point to dig into the issues. 

Sent from Doug's iPhone

(New 09-04-15)

From: Robert f Bragg [mailto:bobbragg1955@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:45 PM
To: Doug; Jack Messersmith; bobbragg1955@gmail.com

Dear Fellow OTTO fuel handlers;

I carried a 0744, 0746 also ASROC NEC while on active duty. I worked aboard the USS BRYCE CANYON AD-36 from 9-74 to 12-77. I re-enlisted and transferred to NAS BRUNSWICK Me from 1-78 to 1-80. Then on to NWS Yorktown from 1-80 to 3-82.  After that I transferred to RECRUITING DUTY and on the a lateral transfer to Navy Counselor Career Recruiter Force.  I medically retired in Jan 1987.

All these torpedo duty stations had MK46 shops and we did de-fuel and fueling operations. As is inevitable there are spills.  We had a major incident on the BRYCE CANYON with a 55 gallon spill in 1977.   Chief Curry and Chief Pfefferkorn will remember this along with CWO4 Evergin.   It took a long time to clean up as well as needle gunning decks down to bare metal and re-priming as well as repainting. All of us were exposed to massive levels of OTTO fuel over a period of weeks.  This plus the normal operations in the engine cleaning / Agitine tanks, waste fluids etc and refueling / refueling operations .  As you all are well aware reports were kept to a minimum and the hush was on so documentation is mainly word of mouth vs. Written.

Spills also occurred at NAS BRUNSWICK and in NWS Yorktown. Exposures in excess of the maximum occurred at every duty station I was at. Some from human error and some from equipment failure. I remember many times in the afterbody shops seeing people, including myself, in throw away coveralls covered in Orange stains. Orange stains on facemasks and rubber gloves covered in Orange stains.  There was always a fine balance between production, weapons commitments and safety and quite frankly we were expected to cut corners to make weapons commitments on time.  This is common practice and hushed as long as no one got hurt. AT LEAST OPENLY.  However we suffered from the effects of the fuel. Wrenches got thrown, some fist fights, depressive symptoms abounded and 2 aspirin, fresh air and coffee did not take care of the issues.  Some of us found alcohol numbed the effects of the headaches and some became addicted to it.  I did and feel fortunate to have recovered from my alcoholism for over 30 years now.  Some did not.  I want to say OTTO fuel did not cause my alcoholism but played a contributing factor in my heavy drinking to alleviate headaches and depressive symptoms.

Overall the VA System has absolutely no idea what OTTO fuel is or was. They do not really want to hear about it. The VA treats depression, high blood pressure, sinusitis, chronic lung and respiratory ailments , diabetes kidney and endocrine issues without regard to the exposures we suffered. I know because I have been treated for all of these for years. I bring up the possibility that OTTO fuel might have played into it and I get the brush off like I have three heads. I did not have these issues before service and the correlation to my time with OTTO fuel is clear to me.

I would appreciate any info any of you may have on long term effects, short term effect etc. I am not trying to build a case or file a claim. I just want to see if I am alone or if others have had similar issues. 

God Bless, stay strong,  I loved being a Torpedoman for our NAVY. Proud to have served. 

Robert F. Bragg LAT, TMTI/ NCI(CRF) U.S.N (Ret)

(New 06-30-15)

 

From: Micksan413@gmail.com  [mailto:micksan413@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:35 AM
To: ss349@inbox.com
Subject: Otto Fuel Study BuMed

 

Hi Master:

 Thought I might pass this along as it affects a large percentage of the TMs.

 

 I came out of the Navy with COPD. Plus a dose of Asbestos .

 

   After a lot of runaround , only  with the help of DAV , I was able to get 30% out of the VA for the Asbestos.
 

   Sometime later I was looking into the Otto fuel side. My lung doctor as well as my primary care  ( both very civilian) , heard of  Otto fuel, and how nasty it was.

 

  Like many of the 46 people I started when there was no precautions ,except eye. Took out dirty clothes home to be mixed in with the family wash.

 

  Now to the point.  About 2 years ago I  was doing some research of the Otto Fuel and came across the attached study.  Of course the VA , did not want to hear anything about it so that part was denied.

 

 Maybe one of TMs has a different approach .  I know I am not the only one with COPD issue . Might help some of folks out.

 Anyhow Thanks

 

Russ Marooney

http://wwww.Marooney.org 

 

During my career I was a Torpedoman. In 1966 I completed a service school for the MK 46 torpedo which was new to the Navy. My NEC became 0746.

 

    I was ordered to the USS Isle Royle, a destroyer tender. I was part of a crew which converted the torpedo spaced to accept the new weapon. The old battery locker used to maintain small (motorcycle size) batteries for recording exercise torpedo runs, became the propulsion section / fueling area.. This compartment was approx 8ft wide X15 long & 8 ft high. The only ventilation was a relatively small exhaust fan & hood to remove the battery gases.   This was expected to remove the fumes from the Otto Fuel II, and cleaning solvents used to clean the mechanical 5 piston engine, associated pumps, ect, and the fuel tank from the room.

 

   The cleaning solvents included mineral spirits, Super Agitene,trichlorethane, methyl ethyl keytone, and spray paint for touch up. The Agitene came in 55 gal drums and was used in a cleaning tank with a loose fitting lid.  The residual of the Otto fuel stayed in this tank, and was only changed when the solvent lost its cleaning ability. During fueling operations the hatch was closed.  Our only protection from the chemical fumes was the single exhaust fan. We had no special breathing or clothing protection for several years to come. If we started to feel any ill effects of the solvents, our orders were to go up on deck and “get some fresh air”

 

    About 1967, I was transferred to the auw shop at NAS Norfolk. Again I had to assist in the setup and certification.  The old battery locker in this case was quite a bit larger, but still confined. During set up we received orders to coat the propulsion room deck with a epoxy paint. This was done because of the hazard of Otto Fuel II soaking into concrete. No other new safety precautions were installed.

 

  My next command in 1969 was NAS Sangley Point Philippines. The shop was similar to Norfolk Va. It was operational. Same lack of protection was in place. After about a year the base was closed and we were transferred to NAS Cubi Point Philippines. This shop was the same as Norfolk, and had to be modified. Prior to our certification major new safety rules. Much of the cleaning solvents were changed, plus we now had to wear Haz mat suits, and Scott air packs while fueling or defueling operations were going on.  This did not apply during the overhaul of the engine fuel pump, and fuel tank. The Super Agitene was still used as in previous shops. There was no upgrade in the ventilation system.

  The next command was the USS Piedmont, another destroyer tender. I spent 6 years on her. It had the same basic setup as the Isle Royle. They did meet the new requirements, but still had the same old ventilation system.  After this command I was transferred to another shop, where I was promoted to CPO. This pretty much removed me from the prolonged exposure to the chemicals.

 

   During the periods I have been discussing we were told that the weapons systems and related chemicals were safe, and had no medical side effects. On the other hand we had to go through an extensive annual Otto Fuel II physical as directed by Bumed *. Recently I found out that there had been a study conducted by Bumed ** from 1966 thru 1979. It dealt with mostly the cardiovascular effects. My medical record reflects the low blood pressure that was discussed in the report. I have asked for compensation consideration in a companion claim.  The pulmonary side effects of the solvents were not addressed, although they were classified as pulmonary hazards. Even the Super Agitene falls in this group. 

 

    Towards the end of my career I started to notice some breathing problems. For example during physical fitness tests, I was experiencing shortness of breath, especially with the running exercise. I was in my mid 30s, and pushing a desk, so that gave me a excuse. Also I was with people in the 18 to 25 yr group. Helped my denial system.  Off duty I was very active and well within weight limits. My favorite exercise has always been swimming, My abilities in this sport  had also diminished do to shortness of breath.

    In May of 2005 the hospital at Tinker AFB performed some tests, and referred me to a civilian pulmonary specialist. After some extensive tests I was prescribed some breathing exercises, and Combivent 4x a day. For a long time I was able to use one or two doses a day, but it got to the point where the full four doses were not giving the desired results.  Recently the doctor changed my medication to Spiiriva 18 MCG., and Ventolin HFA 90 MCG

I have been fighting to stay off as much medication as I can, but the situation has gotten to the point where I had to give in.

   I hope I have been able to explain my case without sounding to whiny.

          * BuMed Instruction 6270.7 Otto Fuel II

          **Report BuMed #84-35 >>>Govt Accession No. AD-A148726  

(New 06-13-15)

United States Navy Torpedomen

Craig Johnson

June 20 at 7:47pm

The longest serving enlisted military man was Chief Torpedoman Harry Simmon Morris, who served 55 years on active duty. Not sure this is his picture does anyone know?

(New 07-10-15)

United States Navy Torpedomen

Craig Johnson

June 20 at 5:44pm

I know some of you will remember but when I started on TOMAHAWKS we had four variant's

TLAM-A
TLAM-C
TLAM-D
TLAM-N

Who besides me know what these are?

(New 07-11-15)

United States Navy Torpedomen

Craig Johnson

June 20 at 5:44pm

I know some of you will remember but when I started on TOMAHAWKS we had four variant's

TLAM-A
TLAM-C
TLAM-D
TLAM-N

Who besides me know what these are?

(New 07-11-15)

 

(New 10-18-15)

Darryl Aiello

Someone didn't check the valve lineup prior to blowing shitters .

    SAILOR REST YOUR OARS....
    I just received an email informing all T.A. Edison sailors of the passing of Capt. Gluck. I served with him for only a short time but considered all SSBN 610 SAILORS as family. I was fortunate enough to talk to him and Captain Lockwood at the reunion held in Bremerton. He was diagnosed with ALS just over a year ago. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his wife and family. Fair Winds and Following Seas..

(New 10-18-15)

Jeff Howard

or the snorkle god got him for not timeing his flush with the head valve (DBF)

(New 10-18-15)

Kenneth H. Haughton

Where and what Submarine Navy has got facilities such as this here? Sheesh ...bet they got soft & fuzzy toilet paper too? ...sheesh No wonder that we got problems...you know it all starts here! 'Fore you know it there'll be high heel shoes showing under that partition... sheesh a partition? Wow what's next... a blower fan, fresh flowered flavored deodorizers? Okay I can tell when sailors stop listening to my drivel... bye...don't misplace your Liberty Cards...you hear? .

(New 10-18-15)

RIGHT ARM RATES

The Blowhole

Dolphin Base, USSVI

July, 2013

Volume 9, Number 9

www.ussvi.org/base/Dolphin.asp 

Established in 1841 and disestablished 2 April 1949, originally signified men of the Seaman branch.

During WWII these rates included Boatswains Mate, Turret Captain, Signalman, Gunners Mate, Fire Controlman, Quarter-master, Mineman, and Torpedoman's Mate. Other ratings wore rates on the left sleeve.

(New 05-15-14)

From: Jack Duncan [dryfrog@npgcable.com ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:34 PM
To: Jack Duncan
Subject: Updated Navy Torpedomen within 1940-1949 Torpedomen A & 2000-2010 & later on 04-21-14

Kith and Kin,

 Marlene and I have discovered through our many school presentations for the Joe Foss Institute that much of America has no idea about history or civics while geography is a total unknown.  This is due to a change in the basic precepts of the educational system, especially post-World War 2.  I written a long treatise on that subject that you may ask about.

 Below and through the links posted is a long-overdue compilation of rudimentary and elementary things that should not be lost to history.  Glimpses into the not-too-distance past, for there are those, like me, still alive who lived these adventures.

Thanks to Jim Santos, his expertise with a computer and memories of various old guys like me, perhaps 2 or 3 percent of you will read these memories of old salts.  The rest are simply too busy or their lives are too frenetic and helter-skelter could give a rat's.  That's my challenge!! 

Oh!  And send it on to others who may be interested.

Jack

(New 04-24-14)

From: mailto:mfl4759925@aol.com  [mailto:mfl4759925@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:01 AM
To: ss349tm3ss@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Updated Torpedoman's Association with updated 1960-1969, 1970-1979, 1980-1989 and 1990-1999 on 08-15-14

Don't forget, that FC settings could be also set manually at the torpedo tube, depth by hand and gyro from the "jeep".
DBF  Michael F. Lintner, TMCM(SS)