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I spoke last week of fighting and confrontation, urging rationale and restraint. Easy for him to say,  so say my responders. Yes, it is, easy to say. Much harder in practice.

I think it's safe to say that each of us have certain raw places that never seem to fully heal, Vietnam is one of those for so many.

Now we are come to a place in history where we cannot hide from nor avoid this particular raw place which Vietnam Veterans share and this is in major part due to the current election campaign being waged. Senator Kerry jump started this process by highlighting his military exploits as a central theme of his campaign but I am not here to take Kerry apart politically, I am pointing out the origin of "many cases of the raw ass" as we used to put it.

Thirty plus years it took many of us to find and use our voices and once again raise them in pride of accomplishment and honor of duty performed, thirty years and now I see vet against vet in vehement argument. I see many turning once again inward and drifting away from his brothers in anger and frustration. It's not that we have always agreed on any issue, God knows if you drop three vets in a room, within twenty minutes there will be some kind of debate going on, and that is good. But I see more polarity and anger in this fight than any other we have seen as a group since the war ended. The possible consequences alarm me as I fear that what progress we have shared may be in jeopardy of estrangement between men who fought together and lived to come home.

Recently in Cincinnati we hosted the National VFW convention. Both President Bush and candidate Kerry addressed the convention to very markedly different receptions. With the gracious permission of the author I have reprinted here the article written by Peter Bronson of the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper (thank you Mister Bronson):
 


Thursday, August 19, 2004

 Many in VFW have no desire to salute Kerry


VFW members were a lot nicer to John Kerry than he was to them in 1971, when he accused Vietnam veterans of war crimes "on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.'' But when he said, "For 35 years I have fought and kept the faith with our veterans,'' it was more than some could take.

About 50 to 100 veterans walked out before Kerry spoke, said Vietnam veteran and Bush supporter Gene Watts of Columbus, a former Ohio state senator. And in the Massachusetts delegation - Kerry's home state - two Vietnam vets stood and turned their backs on Kerry for his entire speech.

Before Kerry showed up a half-hour late, some in the Massachusetts delegation planned to walk out. "I told our group to show respect, we want to hear what he has to say,'' said Massachusetts state Commander Robert VanKirk. So some vets just stayed away.

Twelve minutes before Kerry was supposed to speak, it was announced: "There are still many seats up front.'' "I've already heard him, and I am not impressed,'' said one boycotter, Anthony Albano of New Jersey. "To me, he's an 'I' and 'me' man.''

In the Texas group, where Bush's home state sat next door to Kerry's, Vietnam vet Glen Gardner of Austin said, "There was lots of talk about walking out,'' but most showed respect. Several vets said they didn't believe media reports that the VFW convention was evenly divided. My own "Hoo-Ah Poll'' results show Kerry was drubbed by Bush. Monday, Bush had three Hoo-Ahs and four strong standing ovations.

Kerry got zero Hoo-Ahs, two polite bookend standing ovations, one loud boo and scattered heckling. Maybe it was his droning monotone that could put a double espresso to sleep. Or maybe it was just hard to tell which Kerry showed up. Was it the leader of the anti-war party, or was it a new Kerry auditioning to play George C. Scott doing Patton?

"Since (9/11), we have become a country divided over Iraq - and it didn't have to be that way,'' said the nominee of the party that gives French kisses to Michael Moore. Then he pledged: "Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely. I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security.''

So how does that differ from Bush, who didn't wait for permission from France and Germany to snuff an imminent threat from Saddam? Beats me. Kerry said, "I know what to do in Iraq,'' but didn't offer many details except to say he wants Germany and France "on the team'' - which is like asking Whoopi Goldberg to join the Navy Seals.

Kerry said he had a plan for a "smarter, more efficient war on terrorism,'' but again it was Kleenex-thin on specifics. And Kerry couldn't resist boasting about his increasingly suspect record in Vietnam.

 It was not a wise move. Many VFW members have not forgotten Kerry's reckless slander of Vietnam vets as baby-killers in 1971. "I'm here because I have to be, to take pictures,'' said William Juteau, a Vietnam vet from New York. "I don't care for him, his actions overseas or his associations with Jane Fonda.''

Korean vet Theodore Eaton said he understood why guys in his Massachusetts group turned their backs on Kerry. When Kerry talked about "keeping faith'' with vets, "It was like rubbing salt in the wounds,'' he said.

The Massachusetts commander was more diplomatic: "The war in Vietnam is over,'' he said. Someone should tell Kerry.

E-mail pbronson@enquirer.com or call 768-8301.


Passions are running high in both camps but maybe more so among veterans than any other group just because we understand the hell of war and the vital drive to survive by winning: that is, to defeat your enemy. No one that ever put on the uniform and took up a weapon fought to discourage or inconvenience the enemy, we fought to win and that meant leaving the field after all opposition is crushed. Now sadly I see this turned veteran against veteran and fought as if the contestants own survival is at stake.

Are the issues just that important to require a "take no prisoners - leave no survivors" kind of campaign? Yes, I think they are from both perspectives. We who support President Bush are passionately against Kerry and feel his presence in the White House would be an affront to every veteran who ever fought there in the long years we were there. We fear the damage that a man that many consider a traitor would destroy us as a nation and lead to disaster here and abroad. Those who support Kerry are equally convinced that without his leadership we are spiraling into another Vietnam complete with kickback dollars and enough corruption to run six or seven mini-series events.

Of more importance perhaps in the narrower focus is that soon we will have a decision rendered by the voters and the election as we know it will be over, assuming Florida of course works out the hanging chad thing. When the dust and smoke settles in Washington there will be winner and a loser, and many casualties as well. Many embittered, wounded, and angry veterans who have been pressed into this fight as if we had all been drafted, each bringing his own thoughts and reasons to the table, each leaving feeling satisfied or betrayed by the outcome, yet we are all veterans still. We will always be that, won't we?

How many will shut up? How many will harbor anger towards his brothers? How many will wake in the night visited by old dreams and the howlings of old ghosts and curse this damned election for letting this back in after working so hard to put them to peace? That will be answered by each man himself and I can only hope that the brotherhood which we share will not bend or fall to pieces in the afterlight of this vicious battle in which we now find ourselves engaged.

Stand for what you believe in, brothers, let your voice tell your story and what you believe but there will come a closure after which we must go on and not allow the old feelings and isolation to take precedence over the long way we have come since 1973. We share that which none who were not there can know and this alone should be where we start when the ballots are counted and the next administration begins whether a continuation of George Bush or Kerry. I urge all vets to vote their hearts but don't give away that part of your soul that was tempered in the fires of Vietnam. Know that your brothers brought you home as surely as did the freedom bird you rode. Don't lose sight of them no matter which party or position they support. Like the sarges used to tell us "someday this will all be over and when you go back to the world you're going to have to learn how to live there all over again.."

Ain't it the truth?

and above all....
think for yourself...

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